Gregor Werner
Person · male · Holy Roman Empire · Ybbs an der Donau · born 1693 · died 1766 · recording since 2021
Austrian composer
Also known as Gregor Joseph Werner · グレゴール・ヨーゼフ・ヴェルナー
Timeline
1690s
1760s
2020s
· Debut release
Debut release: Salve Reginas - Pastorellas
First documented Album in the MusicBrainz discography.
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Biography
Biography
Gregor Joseph Werner (28 January 1693 – 3 March 1766) was an Austrian composer of the Baroque period, best known as the predecessor of Joseph Haydn as the Kapellmeister of the Hungarian Esterházy family. Few of Werner's works survive to the present day, and he is mostly remembered for his troubled relationship with Haydn.
Career
Werner was born in Ybbs an der Donau. He served from 1715 to either 1716 or 1721 (unknown) as the organist at Melk Abbey. During the 1720s he was in Vienna, where he may have studied with Johann Fux. Werner was married on 27 January 1727. On 10 May 1728 he took up the position he was to hold for the rest of his life, as Kapellmeister at the Esterházy court in Schloss Esterházy in Eisenstadt. The appointment "opened a new era for music" at the court; previously, there had been seven years of relative inactivity following the death of Prince Joseph in 1721; his widow Maria Octavia, serving as co-regent for her young son Paul Anton, had instituted economies in the musical establishment. Robbins Landon and Jones suggest that Werner was hired at the then 17-year-old prince's instigation.
Werner set to work, bringing new music to the court from Vienna and composing prolifically. He remained in full charge of the Esterházy musical establishment until 1761, when he entered a period of semi-retirement, his responsibilities limited to church music. Throughout this time he worked for a prince who was himself highly musical: Paul Anton had received musical training from the court musicians as well as from music masters imported from abroad; he played the violin and the flute.
Werner died in Eisenstadt on 3 March 1766.
Relations with Haydn
Werner's period of semi-retirement began in 1761 when the Esterházy family hired the 29-year-old composer Joseph Haydn as their Vice-Kapellmeister. The contract by which Haydn was hired shows the family's loyalty to their elderly musical servant by retaining him, at least on a titular basis, in the top post of Kapellmeister. However, after this time Werner's musical duties were limited to church music, and Haydn, 39 years younger than Werner, had the primary duties, with full control over the secular musical events of the household, including the orchestra.
This was a time of changes probably unwelcome to Werner. His longtime patron Paul Anton died in March 1762, succeeded by his younger brother Nikolaus Esterházy. Nikolaus was also a very musical prince, but his interests (Jones) "lay with Haydn and the development of instrumental music". Haydn initially received the same salary (400 florins per year) that Werner had long received, but in June 1762 this was increased to 600.
In addition, Werner had lived to see the kind of music he composed become outmoded. His own work emphasized the contrapuntal textures of the Baroque era, whereas by 1761 the new forms of the Classical period, often with a single melody set over an accompaniment figure, had come to the fore. Jones says, "he had become too old to appreciate the rapidly developing fashion for symphonies, quartets, and keyboard sonatas, genres in which Haydn was already acquiring a name for himself." Werner expressed his distaste by calling Haydn a "G'sanglmacher" (writer of little songs) and "Modehansl" ("fashion follower," literally "little Hans of fashion").
Werner's discontent reached its climax in October 1765, a few months before his death, when he wrote a letter to Prince Esterházy denouncing Haydn for his slackness in running the Esterházy musical establishment. The letter begins:
I am forced to draw attention to the gross negligence in the local castle chapel, the unnecessarily large princely expenditures, and the lazy idleness of the musicians, the principal responsibility for which must be laid at the door of the present director, who lets them all get away with everything, so as to receive the name of a good Heyden [sic]: for as God is my witness, things are much more disorderly than if seven children were around.
While it is natural to detect bitterness and envy in Werner's letter, Jones points out that the criticisms might well have been legitimate, and that the letter produced a useful bureaucratic response. Haydn was spread thin between serving the Prince's interests in secular music (mostly in his palace in Vienna) and in covering for the now-frail Werner the church music at the family seat in Eisenstadt. Prince Nikolaus arranged for his administrator Rahier to deal with the situation. Rahier (with whom Haydn had a difficult relationship) issued an official document, which reprimanded Haydn. However, it also provided a helpful clarification of Haydn's responsibilities and designated a subordinate (Joseph Dietzl) to take on the task of keeping track of the music and instruments in Eisenstadt.
The reprimand also led Haydn to begin to keep a draft catalog of all his works (the "Entwurf-Katalog"). In response to a particular detail of the reprimand, Haydn began writing a great number of works in the Prince's favorite genre at the time, the baryton trio.
Reception
Werner today is an almost-forgotten composer. The Penguin Guide to Recorded Classical Music (2009) reviews no recording of any works by him; few recordings are commercially available. The reference sources listed below tend to emphasize Werner's troubled relationship with Haydn over his own career.
The choreographer Twyla Tharp used a prelude and fugue by Werner for her 1976 dance Give and Take.
Haydn himself clearly held Werner in high esteem, whatever their personal difficulties may have been. In his own old age (1804) Haydn published "six introductions and fugues for string quartet, taken from Werner’s oratorios". The title page read that the works were "edited by his successor J. Haydn out of particular esteem towards the famous master".
Selected recordings
Oratorio Debora – Banditelli, dir. Pal Nemeth. Quintana 1994.
Gregor Werner: Pro Adventu – Ars Antiqua Austria, dir. Gunar Letzbor. Challenge Classics CC72513, 2012. Includes his 6 fugues in Quartets (as arranged by Haydn), and selected vocal works for Advent.
Die Jahreszeiten (= Neuer und sehr curios-Musicalischer Instrumental-Calender) Concilium musicum Wien, dir. Paul Angerer. Christophorus Records CHE 0164-2, 2011.
Discography & profile
Normalised profile
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| Metric | Value | Percentile |
|---|---|---|
| Wikipedia language versions | 11 | 61.8th |
| Spotify monthly listeners | — | no data |
| Release groups in DB | 2 | 75.7th |
| Studio albums | 2 | 78.8th |
| Awards recorded | 0 | 0th |
| Timeline events | 5 | 78.8th |
| Recording span (years) | -255 | 2.3th |
| Genres | 3 | 80.4th |
Percentiles are computed at render time; missing values mean the artist has no data on that axis.
Discography (2 release groups · 2 studio albums)
Albums · 2
2021 · studio album
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Tracklist · 48 tracks · 1:06:12
1Salve Regina III/104: Ad te clamamus1:272Salve Regina III/104: Eja ergo0:403Salve Regina III/104: Et Jesum0:374Salve Regina III/104: O clemens0:455Pastorella III/299: Vivace1:416Pastorella III/299: Siciliana1:477Pastorella III/299: Allegro2:208Salve Regina III/127: Salve Regina0:479Salve Regina III/127: Ad te clamamus0:5010Salve Regina III/127: Eja ergo1:5611Salve Regina III/127: Et Jesum0:5612Salve Regina III/127: O clemens2:4213Pastorella III/298: Tempo ordinario - Largo1:5914Pastorella III/298: Allegro2:0115Salve Regina (Eisenstadt): Salve Regina1:5016Salve Regina (Eisenstadt): Ad te clamamus1:2017Salve Regina (Eisenstadt): Eja ergo0:5518Salve Regina (Eisenstadt): Et Jesum0:3519Salve Regina (Eisenstadt): O clemens1:1020Pastorella (Eisenstadt): Andante2:1721Pastorella (Eisenstadt): Larghetto1:5822Pastorella (Eisenstadt): Allegro1:3923Pastorella III/289: Andante moderato1:2024Pastorella III/289: Larghetto1:4125Pastorella III/289: Allegro1:1826Salve regina III/111: Ad te clamamus1:1227Salve regina III/111: Eja ergo0:3828Salve regina III/111: Et Jesum0:3329Salve regina III/111: O clemens0:5230Pastorella III/301: Andante2:1931Pastorella III/301: Larghetto1:3132Pastorella III/301: Allegro1:4833Salve Regina III/130: Salve Regina1:5134Salve Regina III/130: Vita dulcedo0:3935Salve Regina III/130: Ad te clamamus1:1236Salve Regina III/130: Eja ergo1:1237Salve Regina III/130: Et Jesum1:1638Salve Regina III/130: O clemens0:4639Salve Regina III/130: O clemens (Fugato)1:0440Pastorella III/300: Larghetto2:3241Pastorella III/300: Largo1:3842Pastorella III/300: Allegro0:5543Salve Regina III/121: Salve Regina1:0444Salve Regina III/121: Ad te clamamus0:5845Salve Regina III/121: Eja ergo0:3546Salve Regina III/121: Et Jesum0:5647Salve Regina III/121: O clemens0:5448O clemens, o pia (Alla capella)3:16Gregor Joseph Werner: Vol. III: Masses and Motets
2023 · studio album
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Tracklist · 50 tracks · 1:14:03
1Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Kyrie: I. Kyrie3:482Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Gloria: II. Gloria in excelsis0:543Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Gloria: III. Laudamus te1:074Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Gloria: IV. Gratias agimus tibi0:585Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Gloria: V. Domine Deus1:566Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Gloria: VI. Qui tollis peccata mundi1:347Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Gloria: VII. Quoniam tu solus1:108Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Gloria: VIII. Cum Sancto Spiritu1:269Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Credo: IX. Credo in unum Deum1:3610Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Credo: X. Et incarnatus est1:5911Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Credo: XI. Et resurrexit1:0212Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Credo: XII. Et in Spiritum Sanctum1:5113Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Credo: XIII. Et vitam1:3014Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Sanctus: XIV. Sanctus1:0215Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Sanctus: XV. Pleni sunt coeli1:2116Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Sanctus: XVI. Osanna in excelsis0:5417Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Benedictus: XVII. Benedictus0:5718Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19: XVIII. Osanna in excelsis (ut sopra)0:5319Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Agnus Dei: XIX. Agnus Dei2:0720Missa "Sunt bona mixta malis" III/19 - Agnus Dei: XX. Dona nobis pacem1:4121Motetto "Alma redemptoris mater" III/1602:1822Motetto "Ave Regina coelorum"3:2523Sonata prima: I. Largo1:1224Sonata prima: II. Allegro1:5225Sonata prima: III. Largo0:5826Sonata prima: IV. Allegro1:3227Motetto "Sub tuum praesidium" III/2492:0228Motetto "Regina coeli" III/1891:5829Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Kyrie: I. Kyrie eleison1:5730Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Kyrie: II. Christe eleison1:5131Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Kyrie: III. Kyrie eleison0:5732Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Gloria: IV. Gloria in excelsis0:4033Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Gloria: V. Laudamus te1:2134Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Gloria: VI. Domine Deus1:1635Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Gloria: VII. Qui tollis peccata mundi1:4536Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Gloria: VIII. Quoniam tu solus1:3737Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Gloria: IX. Cum Sancto Spiritu0:4738Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Credo: X. Credo in unum Deum2:5139Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Credo: XI. Et incarnatus est1:1740Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Credo: XII. Crucifixus1:0241Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Credo: XIII. Et resurrexit1:2442Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Credo: XIV. Et in Spiritum Sanctum1:5143Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Credo: XV. Et vitam0:5244Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Sanctus: XVI. Sanctus0:5745Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Sanctus: XVII. Pleni sunt coeli0:3746Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Sanctus: XVIII. Osanna in excelsis0:4947Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Benedictus: XIX. Benedictus0:4648Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus": XX. Osanna in excelsis (ut sopra)0:5249Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Agnus Dei: XXI. Agnus Dei1:5950Missa solemnis "Post nubila Phoebus" - Agnus Dei: XXII. Dona nobis pacem1:32
Stats & PK
Percentile within all 23,672 published artists.Put Gregor Werner head-to-head →
| Metric | Value | Percentile |
|---|---|---|
| Wikipedia language versions | 11 | 61.8th |
| Spotify monthly listeners | — | no data |
| Release groups in DB | 2 | 75.7th |
| Studio albums | 2 | 78.8th |
| Awards recorded | 0 | 0th |
| Timeline events | 5 | 78.8th |
| Recording span (years) | -255 | 2.3th |
| Genres | 3 | 80.4th |
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