The Elgins
Group · United States · formed 1965
American rhythm and blues group
Timeline
1960s
· Debut release
Debut release: Darling Baby / Put Yourself in My Place
First documented Single in the MusicBrainz discography.
source: musicbrainz
Biography
Biography
The Elgins were an American vocal group on the Motown label, active from the late 1965 to 1967. Their most successful record was "Heaven Must Have Sent You", written and produced by the Holland–Dozier–Holland team, which was a hit in the US in 1966, and in the UK when reissued in 1971.
Career
Founding members Robert Fleming, Johnny Dawson, Cleo "Duke" Miller and Norman McLean recorded together for various small labels in Detroit prior to their Motown days, as The Sensations, The Five Emeralds, and The Downbeats, and also recorded as The Downbeats for Motown in 1962. The record company suggested that they add female lead vocalist Saundra Mallett, who had recorded unsuccessfully for the label, backed by The Vandellas; she later married and became Saundra Edwards. The new group's first single release was "Put Yourself In My Place", issued in December 1965; early copies credited the record to the Downbeats, but Berry Gordy wanted to use the name Elgins, which had previously been one of the names used by The Temptations. The record rose to no. 4 on the Billboard R&B chart and no. 72 on the Billboard Hot 100, and its B-side, "Darling Baby
Darling BabySpotify (search)YouTube Music (search)Tracklist · 12 tracksA1Darling Baby2:34A2In the Midnight Hour2:11A3Heaven Must Have Sent You2:36A4I Understand My Man3:06A5Good Lovin’2:47A6It’s Gonna Be Hard Times2:32B1Put Yourself in My Place2:39B2634-57892:23B3No Time for Tears2:55B4How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved by You)2:40B5Stay in My Lonely Arms3:01B6When a Man Loves a Woman2:47", also made the Hot 100. Several months later, they issued "Heaven Must Have Sent You", which again reached both the R&B and pop charts, becoming their biggest pop hit. They also released an album, Darling Baby. However, their follow-up single, "I Understand My Man," was less successful, and the group broke up in 1967.
With the continuing popularity of Motown records in the UK fuelled by the Northern soul scene, "Heaven Must Have Sent You" was reissued in 1971 and peaked at no. 3 on the UK Singles Chart. "Put Yourself in My Place" was also reissued and made the chart. With Saundra Mallett Edwards being unwilling to rejoin the group, the Elgins toured the UK with former session vocalist Yvonne Vernee Allen taking her place. One of Yvonne Vernee's solo singles from the 1960s, "Just Like You Did Me", also became popular on the Northern soul scene, especially at Wigan Casino Soul Allnighters. Vernee also recorded some material with The Elgins at Motown, but none of it saw release. Bonnie Pointer recorded a hit version of "Heaven Must Have Sent You" in 1979, and, in 1989, Vernee, Dawson, McLean and Jimmy Charles recorded a new arrangement of the song in the style of Pointer's disco version for producer Ian Levine and it was released as a single that same year. They made several further recordings for Levine's Motorcity label in the 1990s, and two albums, Take the Train (1990) and Sensational (1991), were released. A second single, "It's Sensational", was released in 1992, and a compilation album of their Motorcity material, The Best of the Elgins, was released in 1996. Saundra Edwards also made separate recordings for the same label. She died in February 2002.
A 1997 British import CD paired their album Darling Baby with one by The Monitors, another group that recorded for Motown with limited success, and which featured future Temptation, Richard Street. Recordings of the group, including their Motown album, all singles and unreleased recordings up to 1968, can be found on The Motown Anthology, released in 2007.
Johnny Dawson died in September 2018. Norman McLean died on November 17, 2024.
Albums
1966: Darling Baby (V.I.P. VM400)
1968: Darling Baby (UK issue) (Tamla Motown STML/TML11081)
1990: Take the Train (MOTCLP 39)
1991: Sensational (MOTCCD 75)
1996: The Best of the Elgins (HTCD 7733-2)
1997: The Elgins Meet the Monitors (UK issue) (Marginal ISO 9002)
2007: The Motown Anthology (UK issue) (Universal UK B000OONPO0)
Discography & profile
Normalised profile
Percentiles are computed over every artist in the database, so a tier-3 artist can still sit in the 95th percentile on a single axis.
| Metric | Value | Percentile |
|---|---|---|
| Wikipedia language versions | 3 | 16th |
| Spotify monthly listeners | — | no data |
| Release groups in DB | 7 | 80.4th |
| Studio albums | 2 | 78.8th |
| Awards recorded | 0 | 0th |
| Timeline events | 3 | 73.3th |
| Recording span (years) | 42 | 82.7th |
| Genres | 2 | 74th |
Percentiles are computed at render time; missing values mean the artist has no data on that axis.
Discography (7 release groups · 2 studio albums)
Albums · 2
1966 · studio album
Search SpotifySearch YouTube Music
Tracklist · 12 tracks · 32:11
A1Darling Baby2:34A2In the Midnight Hour2:11A3Heaven Must Have Sent You2:36A4I Understand My Man3:06A5Good Lovin’2:47A6It’s Gonna Be Hard Times2:32B1Put Yourself in My Place2:39B2634-57892:23B3No Time for Tears2:55B4How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved by You)2:40B5Stay in My Lonely Arms3:01B6When a Man Loves a Woman2:47— · studio album
Search SpotifySearch YouTube Music
Tracklist · 11 tracks · 1:05:50
1Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right7:351Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right7:352It's Sensational4:553Is That Too Much7:074Look Up To The Sky7:575What's Going Wrong8:046You Got Emotion4:587Nothing's Worse Than Being Alone [Explicit]4:198Make You My Own4:439My World Is Ending4:3910Ten Out Of Ten3:58
Single · 3
| Cover | Year | Title | Notes | First release |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1965 | Darling Baby / Put Yourself in My PlaceSearch SpotifySearch YouTube MusicTracklist · 2 tracks · 4:59ADarling Baby2:34 BPut Yourself in My Place2:25 | 31 December 1965 | ||
| 1966 | Heaven Must Have Sent You / Stay in My Lonely ArmsSearch SpotifySearch YouTube MusicTracklist · 2 tracksAHeaven Must Have Sent You BStay in My Lonely Arms | 25 August 1966 | ||
| 1967 | I Understand My Man / It's Been a Long Long TimeSearch SpotifySearch YouTube MusicTracklist · 2 tracks · 5:56AI Understand My Man2:59 BIt's Been a Long Long Time2:57 | June 1967 |
Album · 2
| Cover | Year | Title | Notes | First release |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1996 | Heaven Must Have Sent You: The Best of the ElginsSearch SpotifySearch YouTube MusicTracklist · 18 tracks · 1:14:471Heaven Must Have Sent You2:58 2Look Up to the Sky4:15 3Don't Wait Around3:49 4Brand New Feeling5:15 5It's Sensational4:55 6Take the Train4:18 7You Got Emotion4:57 8Oooh Honey Baby4:00 9Is That Too Much3:35 10Stop Dead in My Tracks2:59 11Ten Out of Ten3:57 12Make You My Own4:42 13Souvenirs of Love4:21 14Nothing Worse Than Being Alone4:17 15My World Is Ending4:38 16Closer to Your Heart4:12 17That's When the Tears Start3:30 18Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right4:09 | Compilation | 17 September 1996 | |
| 2007 | The Motown AnthologySearch SpotifySearch YouTube MusicTracklist · 50 tracks · 2:16:14Disc 1 1Darling Baby2:52 2In the Midnight Hour2:12 3Heaven Must Have Sent You2:54 4I Understand My Man3:09 5Good Lovin’2:46 6It’s Gonna Be Hard Times2:35 7Put Yourself in My Place2:43 8634–57892:26 9No Time for Tears3:02 10How Sweet It Is (to Be Loved by You)2:44 11Stay in My Lonely Arms3:00 12When a Man Loves a Woman2:49 13It’s a Man’s Man’s Man’s World2:49 14For Your Precious Love2:26 15I Still Love You2:29 16That’s the Night the Love Died3:01 17Love Is the Answer3:12 18It’s Been a Long, Long Time2:56 19All for Just Lovin’ You2:42 20My 2 Arms – You2:30 21Thank You Love2:15 22Let’s Give Love Another Chance3:05 23Another Hurt Like This2:48 24When You Are Available2:56 25Life Can Be Beautiful When You’re in Love3:04 26My Love for Your Love3:09 27Love Where Are You Hiding2:56 Disc 21Request of a Fool2:57 2Don’t You Know I Love You Baby2:30 3Your Baby’s Back2:46 4All I Got2:34 5Boo Hoo (You Got Me Cryin’ Over You)2:45 6First Try at Love2:02 7Party Time2:28 8Until I Lost You2:59 9Camel Walk2:59 10It’s Gonna Be Hard Times2:33 11Lonely Boy2:08 12I Feel So Fine2:03 13I Want to Be With You2:29 14Let the Groove Roll On2:52 15You Say You Love Me2:29 16They Say You Don’t Care2:21 17Do You Know What I’m Talkin’ About3:03 18Put Yourself in My Place2:28 19Darling Baby2:37 20Heaven Must Have Sent You2:33 21Stay in My Lonely Arms3:01 22I Understand My Man3:07 23It’s Been a Long Long Time3:00 | Compilation | 7 May 2007 |
Stats & PK
Percentile within all 23,672 published artists.Put The Elgins head-to-head →
| Metric | Value | Percentile |
|---|---|---|
| Wikipedia language versions | 3 | 16th |
| Spotify monthly listeners | — | no data |
| Release groups in DB | 7 | 80.4th |
| Studio albums | 2 | 78.8th |
| Awards recorded | 0 | 0th |
| Timeline events | 3 | 73.3th |
| Recording span (years) | 42 | 82.7th |
| Genres | 2 | 74th |
Awards & honours
Line-up
| Name | From | To | Role |
|---|---|---|---|
| Johnny Dawson | — | present | |
| Saundra Edwards | — | present | lead vocals |
| Saundra Mallett | — | present |
Where this record comes from
aliases/urls—musicbrainz · CC0 · retrieved 10 October 2026
https://musicbrainz.org/artist/bde4694e-827b-4eb3-9e75-954613fd1445discography—musicbrainz · CC0 · retrieved 10 October 2026
https://musicbrainz.org/artist/bde4694e-827b-4eb3-9e75-954613fd1445core—wikidata · CC0 · retrieved 10 October 2026
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3520732genre—wikidata · CC0 · retrieved 11 October 2026
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3520732seed-list—wikipedia · CC BY-SA 4.0 · retrieved 10 October 2026
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elginsbiography—wikipedia-en · CC BY-SA 4.0 · retrieved 10 October 2026
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elgins
Why this artist is in the database
- List of soul musicians
Tier rule: genre canon: soul
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Wikidata: Q3520732 · MusicBrainz: bde4694e-827b-4eb3-9e75-954613fd1445
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